Early in the year, Bảo and I discussed taking Bi (and maybe another of the P Centre children) on holiday with us. The Centre supported the idea, and so we asked Bi his preference between Đà Lạt and Nha Trang. He chose Đà Lạt .... and after discussing with Mỹ Hương we decided that Thuận would be Bi's travelling companion.
Our initial plan was to travel from Vũng Tàu to Đà Lạt by bus. There were two options: travelling by day on a seated bus, or at night by a "lying" coach, but I had to work on Friday night, making day travel the only possibility. Then at the beginning of the week some of Bảo's colleagues announced that they also intended to take a trip to Đà Lạt for the 30 April/1 May holidays, so we joined forces with them to hire a mini-van and travel together. All up we made a party of 14 people, with all the driving done by Đạt (a big thanks to him and the copious amounts of coffee he drank!), setting out at 4.30am with the expectation of being able to arrive in Đà Lạt by the early afternoon.
At around 10am near Madagui we happened on a stall selling durian. Travelling with a group of durian lovers sort of made a stop here inevitable :( Oh well, at least there was coffee to be had as well. Being security-minded travellers we locked up the van, but forgot to take out the cameras. Bảo and I both wanted to get some shots so we got the key, tried opening the back to reach our bags, discovered that the lock didn't work well and so opened the door from inside, got our cameras, locked the car, shut the back door, checked to make sure it was locked and ... snap! went the only key in the lock!
After that ensued some very tense moments as we tried and failed to extract the broken part of the key from the lock. The next step was to send for help from the nearest town. Help arrived, managed to get the key out, and by use of a very large file attempted to make a copy that would ultimately fail to work. We needed a more technological approach.
To get this we needed to send someone to the next larger town - Bảo Lộc - which was achieved by Đạt being given a ride by another group, and returning with the locksmith with a group travelling back down the mountains. They arrived with another copy of our original patched together key which .... didn't work. After a lot of refinement, the locksmith eventually put together a key that opened the car door.
The next challenge was to get the key to work in the ignition; a different proposition altogether, confounded by the subsequent discovery that putting a non-authentic key in the ignition too many times triggers a shut-down mechanism. I don't remember how we overcome this one, but eventually this extremely talented locksmith reshaped the key sufficiently to get it to consistently open the driver's door and turn the engine over.
How long did this sorry exercise take? Approximately 6 hours which meant we only got back on the road at around 4pm, the time by which we had originally expected to be well and truly ensconced in our hotels in Đà Lạt! Actual arrival time? 8.30pm with dinner time finally coming along at around 9.30pm. This is not an ideal time to be looking for a solid meal in Vietnam, and we ended up in a snail restaurant (which is more typically a drinking place than one for eating). At least there were some noodles and rice for two very hungry and tired boys.
Here are some pics of waiting - patiently and not so patiently - for a workable key. During this enforced stop-off, Bi's continual comment was "Đà Lạt xa quá!" (Dalat is so far away!). However, he also showed his typical curiosity in all operations, watching the work of the locksmiths closely :)
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Sunday, August 26, 2012
Friday, October 23, 2009
Richard and Bao's road trip to Tay Ninh: after the mountain
At the end of the last post, we had successfully climbed and descended from Nui Ba Den, but we were very footsore. We got back to the motor bike and set out to return to Tay Ninh. Only we found that the problems from the morning hadn't resolved themselves. Several times the motor bike motor just cut out and was very difficult to get going again. All I could really think of was that there was something wrong with the fuel. Bao was more inclined to think that because I hadn't changed the oil before starting the trip that this was somehow creating a problem.
After a while everything seemed to come right again, and we got back to the hotel to the best shower I've had for a long time! Washing off the mud and sweat and effort of the day. Then we went out for dinner with Bao's former colleagues from Kinh Do. He and I looked like a couple of invalids by then because we were both limping. Dinner was followed by karaoke, but the plans did come unstuck a bit ...
a) because it seemed everyone in Tay Ninh was singing that night and we had to go to 3 different places to find room
b) because we got a very flat tyre on the Yamaha on the way.
As it was now about 9pm it proved very difficult to find somewhere to get the tube repaired. Luckily a couple of friends were still with us and helped to search around to find a place. But in the end it had to be done by Khoa borrowing the tools from a Bom Xe place and doing the job himself. We were very lucky and very grateful to him for this.
Bao has some enthusiastic karaoke singing friends - and he has a very sweet voice himself! I, on the other hand, can make an OK sound when singing with the kids at ILA but am entirely different, and not for the better, when amplified to 150 decibels and singing classics from the 70s and 80s. So it was close to midnight before we packed it in and made our way back to the hotel and a very welcome bed, limping all the way :( troi oi!
The next morning we had breakfast of bit tet banh mi (steak and fried egg on a sizzling plate with bread) and then coffee with some friends. Then took the Yamaha off to the dealer to find out what the problem was: a worn air intake hose had a hole and was preventing the petrol from burning properly. Just a routine maintenance thing, really, exacerbated by travelling over 200 km with the moderate weight of 2 rather thin men - plus the fact that this hose has probably already travelled 25,000 km!! The mechanic showed us how dirty the oil was so that got changed as well, and a new tube was put in the back tyre to replace the repaired one. The tyres themselves were ruled as being fine. The cost for all this? VND 150,000. The time taken? About 30-45 mins :) on a Sunday. Service like that in Sydney would be fantastic.

By now it was almost time to get to the Cao Dai temple for the midday ceremony, which draws all the tours from Ho Chi Minh City, but which the religious officials generously allow spectators and cameras. I've been to this mother temple before but not to coincide with any ceremony. I've been also been put in the know by Rob, an Australian friend of Linh, who runs cultural tours around the world including to Vietnam: all the tours will leave after about 15 minutes, leaving plenty of space in the gallery to watch.
Cao Dai prayers are sung. Upstairs there is a small band and a small female choir. The participants file into the temple, women on the left and men on the right, followed by the elders of the three sects, blue, yellow and red. I've attached a short and rather grainy video (taken on Mum's old Nikon camera so it's only about 3.2 megapixels I think). The ceremony actually goes for about an hour. There are a few more clips that I haven't posted anywhere, and a whole lot more photos on Shutterfly. During this time Bao stayed with the bike because we had our bags with us and couldn't risk leaving them unattended.
Afterwards we went for a lunch of com thit nuong - rice with grilled meat. I was so hungry I had two plates! Then we started on the return journey to Vung Tau. I am very proud of myself for driving 3/4 of the way home, including the part of the trip which skirts around the north-west of Ho Chi Minh city to Bien Hoa and the highway back to Vung Tau. Of course it rained again along the way but we were making good time, until ...
... the back tyre got a nail stuck in it and the new tube got a hole. It was just coming on dark but fortunately we were fairly close to a repair shop, although it was on the other side of the very busy road to Vung Tau. We finally made it back at around 6.30pm and immediately went out for dinner!
This was my first big road trip. It won't be the last!
After a while everything seemed to come right again, and we got back to the hotel to the best shower I've had for a long time! Washing off the mud and sweat and effort of the day. Then we went out for dinner with Bao's former colleagues from Kinh Do. He and I looked like a couple of invalids by then because we were both limping. Dinner was followed by karaoke, but the plans did come unstuck a bit ...
a) because it seemed everyone in Tay Ninh was singing that night and we had to go to 3 different places to find room
b) because we got a very flat tyre on the Yamaha on the way.
As it was now about 9pm it proved very difficult to find somewhere to get the tube repaired. Luckily a couple of friends were still with us and helped to search around to find a place. But in the end it had to be done by Khoa borrowing the tools from a Bom Xe place and doing the job himself. We were very lucky and very grateful to him for this.
Bao has some enthusiastic karaoke singing friends - and he has a very sweet voice himself! I, on the other hand, can make an OK sound when singing with the kids at ILA but am entirely different, and not for the better, when amplified to 150 decibels and singing classics from the 70s and 80s. So it was close to midnight before we packed it in and made our way back to the hotel and a very welcome bed, limping all the way :( troi oi!
The next morning we had breakfast of bit tet banh mi (steak and fried egg on a sizzling plate with bread) and then coffee with some friends. Then took the Yamaha off to the dealer to find out what the problem was: a worn air intake hose had a hole and was preventing the petrol from burning properly. Just a routine maintenance thing, really, exacerbated by travelling over 200 km with the moderate weight of 2 rather thin men - plus the fact that this hose has probably already travelled 25,000 km!! The mechanic showed us how dirty the oil was so that got changed as well, and a new tube was put in the back tyre to replace the repaired one. The tyres themselves were ruled as being fine. The cost for all this? VND 150,000. The time taken? About 30-45 mins :) on a Sunday. Service like that in Sydney would be fantastic.
Cao Dai prayers are sung. Upstairs there is a small band and a small female choir. The participants file into the temple, women on the left and men on the right, followed by the elders of the three sects, blue, yellow and red. I've attached a short and rather grainy video (taken on Mum's old Nikon camera so it's only about 3.2 megapixels I think). The ceremony actually goes for about an hour. There are a few more clips that I haven't posted anywhere, and a whole lot more photos on Shutterfly. During this time Bao stayed with the bike because we had our bags with us and couldn't risk leaving them unattended.
Afterwards we went for a lunch of com thit nuong - rice with grilled meat. I was so hungry I had two plates! Then we started on the return journey to Vung Tau. I am very proud of myself for driving 3/4 of the way home, including the part of the trip which skirts around the north-west of Ho Chi Minh city to Bien Hoa and the highway back to Vung Tau. Of course it rained again along the way but we were making good time, until ...
... the back tyre got a nail stuck in it and the new tube got a hole. It was just coming on dark but fortunately we were fairly close to a repair shop, although it was on the other side of the very busy road to Vung Tau. We finally made it back at around 6.30pm and immediately went out for dinner!
This was my first big road trip. It won't be the last!
Monday, October 12, 2009
Richard and Bao's road trip to Tay Ninh: Nui Ba Den
The motoring-minded of you will by now have done the calculations and concluded that we made very slow progress. However, you have to bear in mind that it's very unusual to travel more than about 70km per hour on the highway, and that for the most part motor cycles in Vietnam range in engine size between about 115 and 135 cc rather than the beasts we have in Australia. Throw in the weight of driver and passenger (or a Vietnamese family, a pig and half a dozen chickens/ducks). And while you're travelling at these speeds you don't feel like you are going slow, although you are conscious that the kilometres tick over more slowly than on a car trip on the open road in Australia.
Bao worked in Tay Ninh for about 1.5 years and the visit was a chance for him to catch up with old friends and colleagues and for us both to see the main sights, which are the main Cao Dai temple and Nui Ba Den (Black Lady Mountain). This is a mountain that rises out of the very flat land of Tay Ninh province. The mountain has both a legendary and a modern history, which result in its slopes containing both temples and shrines, and some traces of its importance to all combatants during the French and American Wars.
We left Vung Tau at about 1pm on Friday afternoon in sunshine but unfortunately soon were getting very wet, an experience that was repeated as we left Ho Chi Minh City on the road west. The dirty bike you can see above tells part of that story. So did Bao's shoes and our raincoats. But rain doesn't usually last too long in Vietnam and we made the final third of the journey on dry roads although it was dark (6pm) by the time we arrived and found the hotel, with a very welcome shower, that Thong had recommended. Then dinner, coffee with Thong and friends, supper and bed!
Oh, the joy of being able to sleep until 8am on a Saturday! Selfishly I didn't have a single thought of the classes I was not teaching! Instead we got up, went out for breakfast and to wash the aforesaid dirty bike and then ... Hmm the bike doesn't want to run properly! The engine keeps cutting out as though the petrol is dirty or maybe there isn't any left? Or are the electricals wet? Nope, these aren't the causes - and now it seems to be running OK again. So we headed out of town to Nui Ba Den.
This was my second visit to the mountain temple complex. The first was more than 10 years ago with David and some of the family from My Tho. I think that visit was during the week and I don't recall many people being there. Even when we first arrived this time the parking lots were relatively empty so I didn't anticipate a large number of people but as we started climbing the steps it was clear that many people were using Saturday to make a visit. It was about 10am when we reached the complex and it was a hot climb (though nothing compared to what was to come!) - and just remember that everything used up here is carted up by porters. We passed a few on the way, zigzagging their way across the steps to conserve energy and pouring with sweat. Of course, there is the easy way as well - cable car and toboggan.
As well as the main temple complex there are now smaller temples and shrines higher up. Yes, we visited them all! One of the interesting things is that foreigners don't seem to come here - Lonely Planet says this, and the evidence plus the curious stares from everyone confirmed this. But so too have the reactions of teachers who I've told about the trip - they don't know where I'm talking about (with the exception of Rick who is a true Vietnamphile and has been everywhere. Rick used to sing - in Vietnamese - at Vietnamese weddings in California!) until I mention the Cao Dai temple. This is because the day tours from Saigon only go to Cu Chi tunnels and the Cao Dai temple - OK but it seems that everyone is oblivious to the mountain! Do they not look out of the coach windows?!!
From the temple complex it's possible to keep climbing to the summit of the mountain. Bao has climbed part of the way before and is keen to give it another go. Last time was with Hiep and the climb ended because Hiep 'declined' to keep going. I agree to give it a go but don't promise to go to the top. I already have sounding in my head that concept that there is no top to the mountain!
Ahead of us we see the cliff faces of the main bluff. I look at them and seriously doubt the possibility of climbing up there. We are getting hotter and hotter, notwithstanding the cooler air, and we have no water or food with us! We rest several times. I tell Bao that I don't want to go any further. I'm already thinking about the difficult climb we've made and how it will be just as hard to get down. I say we don't have any water or food and it's already 12.30 (we started this adventure more than an hour ago). He says that Hiep only came this far last time and wins me over to try a little bit more.
Now we're walking through forest and the path is getting muddy - and slippery. We are starting to climb up into the bluff. We reach a point where there is shrine in the rocks, and a red arrow pointing us up. Where? Oh, we have to climb up the rocks! OK, we do that and walk some more. Another arrow pointing up. How? Oh, there are some metal hoops driven into the rock wall! We have to climb up this wall!!! We do it. More muddy paths, still winding and working up the mountain. We take a rest. One of the girls has brought along some sachets of Vinamilk. Sweetened warm milk has never ever tasted so good!
Along the way there are banana trees. They have bananas. Some of the boys decided that they will take some bananas home. They are heavy and it's a long way to go but we do it anyway. Bao jars his leg. It hurts him to walk. He is in a lot of pain but he has to walk. I help to carry the bananas some of the way but the person I'm carrying the load with is walking quite fast and it's a struggle to keep up. I hurt my foot. Oh I forgot to tell you that my usual walking shoes have started falling apart so we've made the decision this morning that I would be better off to wear sandals. Some of the Vietnamese are wearing thongs!
We walk down and down and down ... and I note the sun getting lower and lower in the sky. Eventually we are down, and it's not yet quite dark. The car park is just up the road but we get a lift there anyway. The people living here tell us that they usually get up and down the mountain in 2 hours each way. We started at around 11 or 11.30. It is now past 5 in the afternoon. We rested for maybe 45 minutes at the top and took innumerable short breaks going up and down. We are never doing this again!
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Friday, September 04, 2009
National Day trip
This year National Day also coincided with 15 July in the Buddhist/Lunar calendar, which is an important day for remembering people who have died. For the teachers at ILA though it was principally a cherished paid-day off, the last one for the rest of 2009. Many of us spent it on a trip organised by the ILA centre to nearby Long Son Island in the immense Ganh Rai Bay, behind the Vung Tau peninsula and at the mouth of the Saigon River and the northern most mouth of Cuu Long (the Mekong).
We did not depart from a particularly well-used or maintained wharf . It was low tide when we left and even lower when we returned. To reach our sturdy vessel we had to climb/jump down from the wharf onto one boat and then cross several others, then step down from the last one onto the railing of our own boat. A nightmare for our British former OHS officer!
Kayaking (50,000 VND) and jetsky (sic - 700,000 VND) were available for hire by the hour, and a few budding whitewater sailors (including complete novices) took to the water for a time. All too soon, though, it was time to return. It was an enjoyable day out and we got to see the industrial side of Vung Tau, on which much of its wealth is built, but which is generally invisible to us.
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Wednesday, July 15, 2009
Transport (yet again)

A few weeks after I started renting the Honda Spacey one of the teachers at ILA (Anne) decided to buy a new motorbike and hers became available for rent. A very attractive opportunity because:
- she has been the only rider of it since new
- she services it reguarly and it looks and handles like new
- the rent is much cheaper (1,000,000 VND per month instead of 1,500,000).
Needless to say the Honda went back to its owner at the end of the first month, and now I am very happily getting around on the sporty-looking (red! - as you all know this colour is very important in motor vehicles) Yamaha Nouvo.The poor old Honda was like driving a cow. Now I'm on a fine steed that handles well, responds to the throttle, and is a great ride. You know, the wind in your hair, the dust in your eyes, the flies in your mouth (although sunglasses and a face mask help with the latter) :)
Monday, May 25, 2009
Transport (again)
Well, I have finally rented a motorbike - a Honda Spacey. More of a motor scooter, really, because a) it is an automatic and b) the wheels on it are tiny. I feel very low sitting on it after riding around on Bao's motorbike. This is not to say that the mountain bike is retired, but it is a great relief to be able to jump on something motorised at the end of Saturday or Sunday teaching or in the evenings after work.The Spacey is the bike in the middle of the pic, standing on it's maintenance stand. I had taken it to get the tail light replaced.
Wednesday, March 11, 2009
A little bit of officialdom
There is a process by which I can "exchange" my NSW driver's licence for a Vietnamese one. I am still only licensed to drive cars but it is useful to have the document anyway even if I am driving a motorbike. Apparently ...
The process is:
- go to the Department of Transport and Communication and collect the form
- go to the Foreign Affairs office and get the NSW driver's licence translated (cost = 110,000 VND)
- collect the photocopy and translation
- fill in the application form, put a photo on it and get someone to authorise it (in my case I was able to ask ILA to do this)
- get another 2 photos
- take all these documents plus passport and visa and original licence back to the Department of Transport and Communication
- submit the documents - get a receipt stating they have all the copies/translations/forms and have seen the originals
- come back in a week and pay 30,000 VND - receive the licence.
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Wednesday, December 10, 2008
A day off
I've seen some of the sights on this road before but I wanted to go back and take some photos. The peninsula that Vung Tau sits on faces into the South China Sea - or East Sea/Bien Dong to give it it's Vietnamese name. The peninsula looks a bit like a fish hook, and Big Mountain is the hook. The shipping ports are on the inside of the hook - this waterway is Ganh Rai Bay, and the Saigon River comes down into it. So if you take the ferry from HCM City when you come to visit me, you'll come down the Saigon River and then spend a very long time crossing the bay then out into the East Ocean and up the coast to the terminal at Front Beach.
There are also a lot of seafood restaurants out along this road. In the middle of a weekday there is not much business happening but I guess things change on the weekend, when Vung Tau becomes full of people. When you start to ride around the city as a whole, you realise how many businesses there are - everyone seems to have a living to make through commerce.
The road is an interesting ride. For some stretches there is not much habitation, and the side of the mountain looks like it has been quarried. There are many temples especially back on the north side of the mountain around the hook, and then again on the west around Mulberry Beach. Also some Catholic sites.
In the front is a pavilion with a statue of the goddess. Then up some stairs to the temple building. In here at the front is the Buddha. Behind is a shrine for a man who I think established the temple. His burial site is also nearby. The hillside is quite steep, but there are many gardens and it seems to be quite a few buildings for people to stay, although I only saw two people while I was there.
From here, just a short ride on to Front Beach.
Saturday, November 29, 2008
My new home
Hmm ... has been a while, so the news is getting stale.
anyway - I have moved to my new home in Vo Thi Sau street. I am very glad to be here. It is great to have some space and my landlords have set me up very well - new fridge, washing machine, microwave, rice cooker, iron and cook top. The gas bottle was connected up on Thursday, but I haven't started cooking yet.
The house is in a secure compound with two security guys, so I have to ring a bell each time I come home, so that I can get in the gate. They look after my bike (of the mountain variety) at night, and put it away/get it out for me whenever I go out.
The apartment is a big studio, no separate rooms except for the bathroom. The promised new entry door (on the side of the house) was installed in place of a window, so it is massive! Huge bed, nice TV.
Wednesday, November 19, 2008
Getting set up - home and transport
After many false starts as well as the invaluable assistance of David Vuong (travel agent back in Newtown) in finding some contacts, I have finally settled on somewhere more permanent to live. And it's a place that I looked at in the first week and initially decided against because ... well, because I didn't know any better I suppose. It is an apartment in a villa in Vo Thi Sau street close to Back Beach. It is actually a very nice - luxurious? - large studio, owned by one of the property tycoons of Vung Tau, and it seems that I will be the only other tenant in the place besides the owners. Don't have a pic to show you yet - I am signing the lease on Thursday and move next Monday.
Because I am moving to Vo Thi Sau street I have to do something more about transport than just my daily lift to and from work with Quang, walking and the hotel's dilapidated one-person bicycle (included in the tariff). So I asked Steve about Waltzing Matilda's - the hotel/bar/travel booking agent who he rents his motorcycle from - and went in on Monday to enquire. And to say "I can't actually drive a motorcycle - could someone teach me". After everyone fell about laughing at the prospect of this green round-eye wanting to learn, they have been very kind and given me 3 lessons - all the while I'm waiting for a motorcycle to actually become available. (I do wonder where there is a sub-text here!)
The thing is, the idea of riding the motorcycle is much easier than the act. In principle it's not that much different to driving a manual car, in fact there isn't even a clutch. But I have enormous trouble using the pedal to change gears down, and then there's the need to keep your balance, not veer into other traffic when you're trying to change gear and lane and get ready to make a left-hand turn (remember in Vietnam we are driving on the right hand side of the road, so it's the left-hand turns that take you across traffic), ... oh and slowing down for turns at traffic lights and intersections. The people at Waltzing Matilda's have been very patient and assure me that I'll get it ... but I think that I could make the roads of Vung Tau whole lot more dangerous.
Seriously considering buying a push bike instead and just getting a xe om driver when I need it!
Because I am moving to Vo Thi Sau street I have to do something more about transport than just my daily lift to and from work with Quang, walking and the hotel's dilapidated one-person bicycle (included in the tariff). So I asked Steve about Waltzing Matilda's - the hotel/bar/travel booking agent who he rents his motorcycle from - and went in on Monday to enquire. And to say "I can't actually drive a motorcycle - could someone teach me". After everyone fell about laughing at the prospect of this green round-eye wanting to learn, they have been very kind and given me 3 lessons - all the while I'm waiting for a motorcycle to actually become available. (I do wonder where there is a sub-text here!)
The thing is, the idea of riding the motorcycle is much easier than the act. In principle it's not that much different to driving a manual car, in fact there isn't even a clutch. But I have enormous trouble using the pedal to change gears down, and then there's the need to keep your balance, not veer into other traffic when you're trying to change gear and lane and get ready to make a left-hand turn (remember in Vietnam we are driving on the right hand side of the road, so it's the left-hand turns that take you across traffic), ... oh and slowing down for turns at traffic lights and intersections. The people at Waltzing Matilda's have been very patient and assure me that I'll get it ... but I think that I could make the roads of Vung Tau whole lot more dangerous.
Seriously considering buying a push bike instead and just getting a xe om driver when I need it!
Friday, October 17, 2008
update on Getting set up - transport to school
I have a new driver, Quang. At first I thought this was a temporary arrangement but Lao has decided that he is too busy to drive me and has passed the job on to his friend (I'm sure there is a commission involved). Quang does speak more English which helps, and is reliable and punctual. And I continue to see Lao around the streets to chat!
Sunday, October 12, 2008
Getting set up – transport to school
Well, I wondered the same thing, especially when Lao paid for the coffee as well and offered further free rides. Of course our conversation did come round to the need for transport to work, to go shopping/banking/sightseeing, look for accommodation etc. but any idea of cost was elusive. “You tell me” was Lao’s constant response. The trouble for someone 2 days in the country is that I don’t know what is reasonable to propose. So swapped phone numbers, got a ride back to the hotel – still free – slept on it, did some research (based on ILA info on what it costs to hire a motorcycle for a month and advice from hotel staff on the possible cost of transport to school), then contacted Lao to take me to the bank. (Did I mention that the exchange rate for AUD has been declining since I got here! Well I’m watching enough BBC World News to have an idea of why). When he realised I wanted to change money Lao took me to a jeweller’s shop instead. A point in his favour as David would be able to tell you. Then time to discuss an arrangement. On request Lao tried to get one of his other teacher clients for me to talk to but in the end we made a deal without this. Then in the afternoon I got a call from Lao – he had seen one of his past clients (also a teacher at ILA) and I got the reference I needed.
Oh and the ride to the bank/jeweller’s shop and back to the hotel was still free!
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